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Which Au Draenor Clan Had Black Skin

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    Dragonmaw in the AU?

    Does the Dragonmaw association make an appearance in WoD? I know that Zaela returns through the Dark Portal with a strike forcefulness to reek havoc at Blackrock mountain (Exactly similar Gorefiend did in Beyond the Dark Portal!), just does the clan itself announced on Draenor?

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    It shouldn't. It didn't exist until the Second War, when they bound Alexstrasza in Grim Batol and made her breed; there's no native Dragons on Draenor.

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    They aren't in the AU, but Garrosh does have them present in Blackrock (hence the remade UBRS) as a sort of tactical backside-enemy-lines force.

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    Honestly I recall the Dragonmaw Clan were something Blizzard invented without really thinking information technology through. The simply Azerothian dragon to ever make it to draenor was Deathwing; so unless they add together some giant dinosaur like race called the Drahkuns or something in WoD and say the Dragonmaw derived their name from them and adopted it afterwards I don't encounter them explaining it.

    The one saving grace for them is the updated model they used in Calamity. I don't believe there is any mention of dark-skinned Dragonmaw Orcs earlier Cataclysm. Every Fel Horde Dragonmaw in Outland had traditional red skin, and Zuluhed the Whacked used a pale xanthous model even though the Blackrock skin tones had existed since vanilla. Their decision to give the Dragonmaw dark skin like the Blackrocks, particularly when you consider their affiliation with Rend and Maim Blackhand's Night Horde, Blackness Tooth Smile Clan and Blackrock Orcs in Blackrock Mountain, strongly suggests that they were an offshoot of the Blackrock Association that adjusted to the needs of the Horde in the 2d War and shifted their focus from smelting and smithing to breaking dragons and skillfully riding them. Their determination to give the Blackrock Orc Malkorok the same model as the Cataclysm Dragonmaw ensures continuity, and Warlord Zaela's updated model being that of a Draenor AU Blackrock solidifies the theme. Unfortunately this options means we won't exist seeing an original Dragonmaw Clan on Draenor, but their story swell nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSaggins View Post

    Honestly I think the Dragonmaw Clan were something Blizzard invented without really thinking it through. The only Azerothian dragon to always get in to draenor was Deathwing; so unless they add some giant dinosaur similar race chosen the Drahkuns or something in WoD and say the Dragonmaw derived their name from them and adopted it later I don't see them explaining it.

    The one saving grace for them is the updated model they used in Cataclysm. I don't believe there is any mention of night-skinned Dragonmaw Orcs earlier Calamity. Every Fel Horde Dragonmaw in Outland had traditional red skin, and Zuluhed the Whacked used a stake yellow model even though the Blackrock skin tones had existed since vanilla. Their decision to requite the Dragonmaw dark skin like the Blackrocks, specially when you consider their amalgamation with Rend and Maim Blackhand'southward Dark Horde, Black Tooth Smile Clan and Blackrock Orcs in Blackrock Mountain, strongly suggests that they were an offshoot of the Blackrock Clan that adapted to the needs of the Horde in the 2nd War and shifted their focus from smelting and smithing to breaking dragons and skillfully riding them. Their decision to give the Blackrock Orc Malkorok the same model as the Calamity Dragonmaw ensures continuity, and Warlord Zaela'southward updated model being that of a Draenor AU Blackrock solidifies the theme. Unfortunately this options means nosotros won't be seeing an original Dragonmaw Clan on Draenor, but their story great nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blithe View Post

    It shouldn't. It didn't exist until the Second War, when they leap Alexstrasza in Grim Batol and made her brood; in that location's no native Dragons on Draenor.

    The Dragonmaw existed on Draenor earlier the formation of the Horde. It's in Rising of the Horde and the WC2 manual.

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    Volition nosotros see the past Dragonmaw Clan with Zuluhed the Wacked?
    CM: We haven't talked all that much about the Dragonmaw so far, only I would say that is a possibility. There's a lot of 2d-tier orc clans that all have pretty cool kits, but nosotros haven't been exhaustive yet.
    DK: More chiefly, at that place'southward no native dragons on Draenor. So that whole clan identity wouldn't accept existed until later on.
    CM: What Dave is saying is that he wishes I hadn't made them upwardly back in WC2. And sometimes I wish I hadn't either. So nosotros don't know exactly what we're going to practise with them. (Source)

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    Did the Dragonmaw Clan receive it's name afterward meeting Azeroth's dragons, or did Draenor have dragon-like creatures in the past?
    "Dragons" evidently existed in popular consciousness/myth/legend even before the association went to Azeroth. (Loreology)
    "popular consciousness"? What'due south that?
    Those were Metzen'south words. My thought was he means: "What many people believe". (Loreology)

    Just like how dragons don't be IRL, but they were withal in various cultures.

    As for its absence in WoD... blades of grass. In that location'due south even faerie dragons in WoD Draenor.

    Terminal edited by Aquamonkey; 2014-10-03 at 06:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post

    As for its absence in WoD... blades of grass. There's fifty-fifty faerie dragons in WoD Draenor.

    If they are named subsequently faerie dragons, shouldnt they be named rainbow-friendship association ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blithe View Post

    Information technology shouldn't. It didn't exist until the Second War, when they leap Alexstrasza in Grim Batol and made her breed; there's no native Dragons on Draenor.

    Incorrect. The clan did indeed exist prior to that single result, read Tides of Darkness, where the very first chapter is a chat betwixt Zuluhed and Orgrim, which is before the unearthing of the Dragon Soul and thus before the caption of Alex. - - - Updated - - -

    Quote Originally Posted by MrSaggins View Post

    Honestly I call up the Dragonmaw Clan were something Blizzard invented without actually thinking it through. The only Azerothian dragon to ever get in to draenor was Deathwing; and so unless they add some giant dinosaur like race called the Drahkuns or something in WoD and say the Dragonmaw derived their proper name from them and adopted information technology later on I don't see them explaining it.

    The one saving grace for them is the updated model they used in Cataclysm. I don't believe at that place is whatsoever mention of nighttime-skinned Dragonmaw Orcs earlier Cataclysm. Every Fel Horde Dragonmaw in Outland had traditional red skin, and Zuluhed the Whacked used a pale yellow model even though the Blackrock skin tones had existed since vanilla. Their decision to requite the Dragonmaw dark skin similar the Blackrocks, specially when you consider their amalgamation with Rend and Maim Blackhand'due south Dark Horde, Black Tooth Grin Clan and Blackrock Orcs in Blackrock Mount, strongly suggests that they were an offshoot of the Blackrock Association that adapted to the needs of the Horde in the 2d War and shifted their focus from smelting and smithing to breaking dragons and skillfully riding them. Their determination to give the Blackrock Orc Malkorok the same model equally the Calamity Dragonmaw ensures continuity, and Warlord Zaela'south updated model being that of a Draenor AU Blackrock solidifies the theme. Unfortunately this options means we won't exist seeing an original Dragonmaw Association on Draenor, but their story nifty nonetheless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valyrian Stormclaw View Post

    Does the Dragonmaw clan make an appearance in WoD? I know that Zaela returns through the Dark Portal with a strike force to reek havoc at Blackrock mountain (Exactly like Gorefiend did in Across the Dark Portal!), simply does the association itself appear on Draenor?

    It does not, most likely because this alternating version of Draenor either never saw the rise of the clan, or it saw the devastation of the clan ages agone.


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    Quote Originally Posted past Valyrian Stormclaw View Post

    Does the Dragonmaw clan brand an advent in WoD? I know that Zaela returns through the Dark Portal with a strike force to reek havoc at Blackrock mountain (Exactly similar Gorefiend did in Beyond the Dark Portal!), just does the clan itself appear on Draenor?

    Dragonmaw doesn't be in AU Draenor because at that place are no dragons on Draenor. Dragons are native to Azeroth and have been created and placed in charge there past the titans because of Azeroth's more...complicated situation with the many Old Gods infesting the planet.

    Draenor didn't require extra guardians because it doesn't have Quondam Gods.


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    Quote Originally Posted past Vhoss View Post

    Dragonmaw doesn't exist in AU Draenor because there are no dragons on Draenor. Dragons are native to Azeroth and take been created and placed in accuse there by the titans because of Azeroth'due south more...complicated situation with the many Old Gods infesting the planet.

    Draenor didn't require actress guardians because information technology doesn't have One-time Gods.

    Invalid explanation honestly, equally our Draenor didn't have native dragons either, notwithstanding had a Dragonmaw Association. Oh and Draenor virtually likely has Quondam Gods,- and the Titans take most probable besides tinkered a wee scrap with Draenor, as the place is overrun with giants capable of terraforming.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post

    He used a regular Orc player model. That skintone is bachelor to players also.

    Yous're going to have to show me where this model, with the sunk in eyes, ridged eyebrows and shadowed face, is available in playable orc character customization; because I would love to be able to make my ain Dragonmaw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrashi View Post

    If they are named afterwards faerie dragons, shouldnt they be named rainbow-friendship clan ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Venziir View Post

    Invalid explanation honestly, every bit our Draenor didn't take native dragons either, notwithstanding had a Dragonmaw Clan. Oh and Draenor virtually probable has Erstwhile Gods,- and the Titans accept most likely also tinkered a wee bit with Draenor, equally the identify is overrun with giants capable of terraforming.

    The Dragonmaw clan came with the Horde to Azeroth and enslaved dragons on Azeroth, they didn't come up on dragons through the Blackness Portal.

    The dragons you see in normal Outland now are black dragonflight which went through the portal to Draenor, and the nether dragonflight which are creations from normal dragons by Deatwhing's experiments, and are as well not native to Draenor.

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    Quote Originally Posted past MrSaggins View Post

    You're going to have to show me where this model, with the sunk in eyes, ridged eyebrows and shadowed face up, is bachelor in playable orc character customization; considering I would love to exist able to make my own Dragonmaw.

    Zuluhed the Whacked wasn't given a unique model. That's who Venziir was talking nigh.

    The picture you linked is of Malkorok.


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    Back on Draenor they were known as the chameleon butterfly clan and were the main rivals of the flower picking clan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blithe View Post

    It shouldn't. It didn't be until the Second War, when they bound Alexstrasza in Grim Batol and made her brood; there's no native Dragons on Draenor.

    The Clan itself did exist, but wasn't called Dragonmaw!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KenjiEvans View Post

    The Clan itself did exist, merely wasn't called Dragonmaw!

    It was referred to by name in Rise of the Horde before they ever stepped foot on Azeroth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow the Edgehog View Post

    Zuluhed the Whacked wasn't given a unique model. That'south who Venziir was talking most.

    Ah aye, thank you. I'll read the bold text next time.

    Zuluhed'due south pale model, which yes is a playable choice, is also the model the original Dragonmaw used in Wetlands. Why they were all specifically yellow and at present ash grey I take no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted past Aquamonkey View Post

    It was referred to by name in Rise of the Horde before they ever stepped foot on Azeroth.

    Guessing Blizzard needed the Fact Checker guy on that too. There is no reason for the Dragonmaw Association to exist before fifty-fifty reaching Azeroth as the orcs didn't even know wtf is a dragon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post

    The Dragonmaw existed on Draenor earlier the formation of the Horde. It's in Rise of the Horde and the WC2 manual.

    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

    Will we run into the past Dragonmaw Clan with Zuluhed the Wacked?
    CM: Nosotros haven't talked all that much virtually the Dragonmaw and so far, but I would say that is a possibility. There's a lot of second-tier orc clans that all take pretty cool kits, but nosotros haven't been exhaustive yet.
    DK: More chiefly, at that place's no native dragons on Draenor. And so that whole clan identity wouldn't have existed until subsequently on.
    CM: What Dave is saying is that he wishes I hadn't fabricated them upwards back in WC2. And sometimes I wish I hadn't either. Then we don't know exactly what nosotros're going to practice with them. (Source)

    Originally Posted past Blizzard Entertainment

    Did the Dragonmaw Clan receive information technology's name after meeting Azeroth'south dragons, or did Draenor have dragon-like creatures in the past?
    "Dragons" apparently existed in popular consciousness/myth/fable even earlier the clan went to Azeroth. (Loreology)
    "popular consciousness"? What's that?
    Those were Metzen's words. My thought was he ways: "What many people believe". (Loreology)

    Simply like how dragons don't be IRL, but they were however in diverse cultures.

    As for its absence in WoD... blades of grass. In that location's fifty-fifty faerie dragons in WoD Draenor.

    That means they called themselves Dragonmaw, considering they liked the idea of dragons and and then when they came to Azeroth and saw that dragons actually existed they were all similar


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